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 ddogg7864 -Bronze Member- Posts: 23 Joined: Mar 5, 2006 
I wanna go someplace it's not raining |
Posted: Jul 30, 2008 08:20 PM
Msg. 1 of 3
Or does any one else get tired of hearing how DANGEROUS Big Four ice caves are?
I've been going to them for about 30 years, at least a couple dozen times, and explore as much as I can each time. Yeah I know some people have been killed there and I mean no disrespect but... GEEZ! Should we close down anyplace somebody dies? Mt. Rainier? Sorry somebody died here no more climbing. Mt Hood? After decades of thousands of people climbing every year, now they don't want you on the mountain without a personal locator device! Come on, you are out in the (so-called) wilderness. Take responsibility for yourself and get over it. With all the improvement in gear and other technology, the wilderness is safer than it ever has been. Yeah, you could die at the Ice caves. How much more likely is it you will die in your car on the way there? I-5 closed because somebody might die!!!! Thank you, that is all. Relax! You will get over it. |
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yonsosa -Member- Posts: 1 Joined: Jul 30, 2008 |
Posted: Jul 31, 2008 08:19 AM
Msg. 2 of 3
I agree and I've never been to the Big Four ice caves. The possibility for death and injury exists almost everywhere... But I think part of the issue is that people seem to think that with advances in communication, technology, and equipment that they can be rescued no matter what kind of situation they get themselves into. So while they are safer in a sense, perhaps they are less safe because they think some one can come get them. In general, folks probably ought to understand that they are in charge of themselves and if they get into trouble, the best they can hope for is that someone will come retrieve their body...
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ddogg7864 -Bronze Member- Posts: 23 Joined: Mar 5, 2006
I wanna go someplace it's not raining |
Posted: Jul 31, 2008 07:25 PM
Msg. 3 of 3
Welcome to attrition yonsosa!
I think that is a good point. It is just about personal responsibility. While we make improvements in technology that make us safer, we let society take a larger role in providing us with security and take less and less responsibility for our actions. ie: I spilled the hot coffee you sold me so I am going to sue you! It's just that we go into the mountains to get away from civilization, so why can't that aspect of civilization stay out of our wilderness? Relax! You will get over it. |
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